In this second part of our conversation with Indra Adnan and Pat Kane, co-initiators of The Alternative UK, we explore how we can talk and listen to each other in a way that will shake things up but also encourage the flexibility and openness that’s needed for ‘the politics of waking up’ to emerge.

Both parts of this conversation were recorded before the covid pandemic but we think that – if anything – what we’re talking about here and what Indra and Pat are trying to do will become even more relevant in the post-pandemic world.

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Indra and Pat are co-initiators of The Alternative UK, a political platform aimed at transforming the language and practice of UK politics – through what they describe as ‘a friendly revolution’.

They point out that 98% of people in this country aren’t involved in mainstream party politics, except to vote in elections, and even then turnout is low. But below the radar they see a burgeoning range of local, grassroots activism, sparked by many different issues, which isn’t reflected in the mainstream.

So – is a new kind of politics emerging, what Indra and Pat call ‘the politics of waking up’?

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With Brexit upon us, can the divisions of the past four years be overcome? Kim Leadbeater, the sister of murdered MP Jo Cox and Ambassador for the Jo Cox Foundation, joins Daily Mirror journalist Ros Wynne-Jones to talk about the practical actions they are taking to help heal the social ruptures thrown up by this jarring episode in UK history.

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